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Post by joyduffill on Apr 13, 2006 12:02:30 GMT
Hi everyone I know a little bit about pendulum dowsing, but I admit, I use mine more for cleansing auras and chakras which is discussed on the angel corner forum. However, I do use my Quartz Pendulum for help and advice by asking "Yes" or "No" questions - I find it helps me make decisions when I am being indecisive ! It would be great if anyone had any more info about pendulums or dowsing. Love & Light Joy
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Post by bigc2 on Apr 13, 2006 23:27:23 GMT
All experiments iv,e carried out so far have been based on a true spiritual communication being made through the pendulum. Having this positive belief led to positive responses to questions. Over the last few months doubts have crept in as to the authenticity of information gained using this method,so trying the experiments again, whereas before the responses were positive now they are negative, so this shows that your actual belief can have an effect on dowsing, if you believe you are in actual spirit communicaton results will tend to confirm this, likewise if your sceptical of the process results tend to be negative. After conducting various experiments over a long period i believe the dowser actually exerts the influence and the pendulum reflects this, even affecting the pendulum subconsiously could give a positive result as we all have things in our subconsious wer,e not consiously aware of. So i have to say my conclusion of crystal dowsing is it is manipulated by the dowser not spirit.
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Post by bigc2 on Apr 13, 2006 23:33:04 GMT
As for using the pendulum for decision making i believe that you actually make the decision you subconsciously want to make, having made up your mind what you want to do its influenced through the subconscious and therefore the dowser makes the decision he/she had actually decided on in their own mind this being confirmed for them through the movement of the pendulum.
Best Wishes Big C.
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Post by joyduffill on Apr 14, 2006 6:22:28 GMT
Hi Big C
I do know what you mean about being able to influence answers through the pendulum.
I do try to clear my mind as best as possible and I do receive guidance when I don't know the answer to the question.
Do you think that our subconcious is the same as our "Higher Self"?
If not, do you that it is possible that our "Higher Self" could be influencing the pendulum rather than spirit.
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Joy
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Post by bigc2 on Apr 14, 2006 22:03:31 GMT
Well as we come from spirit and return to spirit we are actually spirit but within the physical body, as its possible to communicate with spirit so its possible to communicate with our own spirit, our "higher self" So when using a pendulum i believe we are actually gaining confirmation from within ourselves transmitted via the subconscious mind, you connect with your true deep feelings rather than as the saying goes letting your heart rule your head or vice-versa.
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Post by joyduffill on Apr 18, 2006 19:37:09 GMT
Hi Big C That makes sense I know of the pendulum message board - do you think that it is possible to connect with spirit through this? Do you think that it is a reliable source of connection? Love & Light Joy
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Post by bigc2 on Apr 18, 2006 20:21:26 GMT
Ive never used or witnessed anyone using a pendulum message board but to be honest i think you can just as easily manipulate the pendulums responses with this as we have spoke about above during a normal dowsing session. I would think its a bit like the tarot you can easily interpret what you want depending on your personal circumstance and how readily you want to believe an answer to a question. I dont think true spiritual communication just comes that easily to anyone that picks up a divination tool, i think people with a true ability to contact spirit are in a minority, theres plenty that claim this ability but to find that conclusive relevant proof isnt easy but rewarding when you find it. Best Wishes Big C.
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Post by joyduffill on Apr 19, 2006 20:59:47 GMT
Hi Big C
What sort of experiments have you carried out?
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Joy
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Post by bigc2 on Apr 19, 2006 22:37:09 GMT
Searching for lost objects, trying to gain information of things that i know wouldnt be in my subconscious and that i would have no idea about, a simple thing like asking if theres any messages been left on your answerphone while youve been at work, how many messages etc, all this type of experiment have not been successful as i couldnt have picked up any information about what i was asking subconsously so theres nowhere for the answers to come from, then asking questions relating to future events and how they will turn out, i found these responses tied in with what i wanted to happen deep down rather than the expected outcome, a bit like an oldham fan asking if they will beat man utd in the cup, the fan knows they wont but deep down in his heart he really wants them to, so subconsously he manipulates the crystal to give the answer he wants not what he knows to be the realistic outcome, probably not explained that too well lol. Theres other things like using various symbols or colours on cards and asking the crystal to predict where a certain card is you can do this with a friend so you dont know the symbols or colours the outcome is negative, when you look at the cards turn them face down and move them around the outcome is more positive as you retain information subconsiously without realising it during the shuffle, also try to use mental force to change a fact that your asking about, see how many times you can find a small object hidden under a cup using 3 cups you have a 1 in 3 chance, its just about thinking how any outside influence could affect the pendulum then use it in a positive then negative way and monitor the results, dowsing for water/minerals etc is another matter as you then start to use the sources own natural energies Best Wishes Big C.
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Post by joyduffill on Apr 21, 2006 20:39:39 GMT
Hi Big C OK I understand now, you don't disagree with Pendulum power, just the ability to give yes/no answers and anything that the subconcious could already know. Hope thats right Do you think that dowsing rods and equally as effective as pendulum? Love & Light Joy
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Post by bigc2 on Apr 21, 2006 23:25:12 GMT
Ive witnessed some quite good information obtained through dowsing rods on one particular investigation when responding to answers we had someone video the session on playback there was a bright orb like anomoly that moved in exact time with the dowsing rods as if the rods were following it, no one witnessed this at the time it wasnt seen with the naked eye. The information gained couldnt have been pre-researched as the venue was kept secret, some of the answers checked out accuratley when research into the venues past was carried out, these results go against my own dowsing/orb experiments/theories. Yes i believe crystals contain a natural earth energy as for the rods theres a couple of explanations im looking into as well, trying to find the normal within the paranormal is a thankless task at times lol. Best Wishes Big C.
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Post by joyduffill on Apr 22, 2006 16:47:08 GMT
Hi Big C
So from what you are saying, dowsing rods are more accurate?
Thats really interesting - I quite fancy investing in some, but to be honest I didn't know how effective they would be.
mmmmmmmm something to think about now ;D
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Joy
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Post by bigc2 on Apr 22, 2006 21:31:50 GMT
The better information seemed to come from the rods but again they can also be affected through automatism etc, when i said the venue was kept secret that was from the medium and people doing the dowsing, there were three people who organised the investigation who obviously knew about the venue, now these three certainly had no contact with the rest of the team, at the moment im looking into the possibility of one or all of the organisers actually subconsciously affecting the rods rather than the dowsers themselves, with dowsing if you can tap into your higher self why not another persons higher self and during a dowsing rod experiment could the three that knew the venue have actually been transmitting the responses through the subconscious similar to causing movement by telekinesis. Without being sceptically closed minded i like to delve into all aspects of possibility no matter how remote they might seem, but the best results ive witnessed do come from rods, ive tried using them to no avail. Best Wishes Big C.
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Post by joyduffill on Apr 23, 2006 13:08:39 GMT
Hi Big C
I suppose thats a possibility - but like you say, if you can rule out all other factors, then you can come to a conclusive answer.
Let us know how you get on.
Love & Light
Joy
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